Comments on: Anarchy for the Classroom: Edupunk? http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/ Articles, Tips, Screencasts, and Tutorials for Educators Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:26:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Barbara http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-143381 Barbara Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:07:06 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-143381 nice post!keep it up<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('143381','Barbara','nice post!keep it up'); return false;">Quote</a></div> nice post!keep it up
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]]> By: Enough about Edupunk | Pockets of Change http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142905 Enough about Edupunk | Pockets of Change Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:33:49 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142905 [...] it has sparked some interesting discussion, but will it change anything? David Gran thinks all this debate is furthering our understanding of eduators’ relationships to the [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142905','Enough about Edupunk | Pockets of Change','[...] it has sparked some interesting discussion, but will it change anything? David Gran thinks all this debate is furthering our understanding of eduators’ relationships to the [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] it has sparked some interesting discussion, but will it change anything? David Gran thinks all this debate is furthering our understanding of eduators’ relationships to the [...]
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]]> By: Enough about Edupunk | connect. create. question. http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142904 Enough about Edupunk | connect. create. question. Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:48:24 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142904 [...] it has sparked some interesting discussion, but will it change anything? David Gran thinks all this debate is furthering our understanding of eduators’ relationships to the [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142904','Enough about Edupunk | connect. create. question.','[...] it has sparked some interesting discussion, but will it change anything? David Gran thinks all this debate is furthering our understanding of eduators’ relationships to the [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] it has sparked some interesting discussion, but will it change anything? David Gran thinks all this debate is furthering our understanding of eduators’ relationships to the [...]
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]]> By: John Connell » Blog Archive » Edupunk, Eduschmunk…. http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142900 John Connell » Blog Archive » Edupunk, Eduschmunk…. Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:13:43 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142900 [...] the Edupunk meme is definitely proving useful in itself. I agreed, for instance, with David Gran when he wrote [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142900','John Connell » Blog Archive » Edupunk, Eduschmunk….','[...] the Edupunk meme is definitely proving useful in itself. I agreed, for instance, with David Gran when he wrote [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] the Edupunk meme is definitely proving useful in itself. I agreed, for instance, with David Gran when he wrote [...]
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]]> By: David Gran http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142898 David Gran Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:52:26 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142898 Corrie- excellent points. Musical tastes aside (i prefer folk as well and the message of folk music), i think the allegory is that schools have traditionally been places where we teach kids *not* to think for themselves, and the counter-culture teachers are the ones who are fighting that standard. I'd look terrible with a mohawk as well, and my wife won't let me grow my hair long so.... Paul- Thanks, but I'm not Jeff. He's smarter, handsomer, and a better cook. But I look better in a bowler and can recite the entire first chapter of <i>The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy</i> from memory. Glad you liked the visuals though. Alan- I think that, in part, is the point I'm trying to make. "-2.0", "-punk", or whatever are just labels (i used the term 'frames'). The terms help us codify meaning so that we can easily describe a certain idea. This is why my final point was: <i>It should remind us of the necessity of these kinds of discussions -<b>not to define us,</b> but to allow us to continually reflect on the nature of this constantly changing relationship.</i>. Thanks for your thoughts. I agree. Jeff- (punk) rock on! ;)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142898','David Gran','Corrie- excellent points. Musical tastes aside (i prefer folk as well and the message of folk music), i think the allegory is that schools have traditionally been places where we teach kids *not* to think for themselves, and the counter-culture teachers are the ones who are fighting that standard. I\'d look terrible with a mohawk as well, and my wife won\'t let me grow my hair long so....\r\n\r\nPaul- Thanks, but I\'m not Jeff. He\'s smarter, handsomer, and a better cook. But I look better in a bowler and can recite the entire first chapter of <i>The Hitchhikers\' Guide to the Galaxy<\/i> from memory. Glad you liked the visuals though. \r\n\r\nAlan- I think that, in part, is the point I\'m trying to make. \"-2.0\", \"-punk\", or whatever are just labels (i used the term \'frames\'). The terms help us codify meaning so that we can easily describe a certain idea. This is why my final point was: \r\n\r\n<i>It should remind us of the necessity of these kinds of discussions -<b>not to define us,<\/b> but to allow us to continually reflect on the nature of this constantly changing relationship.<\/i>. \r\n\r\nThanks for your thoughts. I agree.\r\n\r\nJeff- (punk) rock on! ;)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Corrie- excellent points. Musical tastes aside (i prefer folk as well and the message of folk music), i think the allegory is that schools have traditionally been places where we teach kids *not* to think for themselves, and the counter-culture teachers are the ones who are fighting that standard. I’d look terrible with a mohawk as well, and my wife won’t let me grow my hair long so….

Paul- Thanks, but I’m not Jeff. He’s smarter, handsomer, and a better cook. But I look better in a bowler and can recite the entire first chapter of The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Galaxy from memory. Glad you liked the visuals though.

Alan- I think that, in part, is the point I’m trying to make. “-2.0″, “-punk”, or whatever are just labels (i used the term ‘frames’). The terms help us codify meaning so that we can easily describe a certain idea. This is why my final point was:

It should remind us of the necessity of these kinds of discussions -not to define us, but to allow us to continually reflect on the nature of this constantly changing relationship..

Thanks for your thoughts. I agree.

Jeff- (punk) rock on! ;)

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]]> By: Jeff Utecht http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142897 Jeff Utecht Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:52:19 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142897 Great post David! Rock on! :)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142897','Jeff Utecht','Great post David! Rock on! :)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Great post David! Rock on! :)
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]]> By: Alan Levine http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142894 Alan Levine Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:00:34 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142894 I am edu-antilabel. I don't want to be tied to any old metaphors; its all new. I am not driving forward looking through the rear view mirror.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142894','Alan Levine','I am edu-antilabel. \r\n\r\nI don\'t want to be tied to any old metaphors; its all new. I am not driving forward looking through the rear view mirror.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I am edu-antilabel.

I don’t want to be tied to any old metaphors; its all new. I am not driving forward looking through the rear view mirror.

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]]> By: Paul R Wood http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142893 Paul R Wood Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:28:38 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142893 I hear the word "punk" and the first person I think about is a young man named Johnny B. who played 2nd base for me at BDHS. Johnny was just that the punk type kid who was as mannerly as they come but radical in that edgey sense because he walked to a different beat. I guess I missed someone's post somewhere that first presented this concept and will go back and look but Jeff this helps me to understand the phrase "edupunk" so much. I can most definitely hear Dana Carvey as well as see him on the porch in his rocker spewing his venom. I love the visuals and I appreciate what you continue to teach me. I look forward to NECC and meeting you in person. Glad you got your flights squared away. Keep your head above water and slow, deep breaths Utes.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142893','Paul R Wood','I hear the word \"punk\" and the first person I think about is a young man named Johnny B. who played 2nd base for me at BDHS. Johnny was just that the punk type kid who was as mannerly as they come but radical in that edgey sense because he walked to a different beat. I guess I missed someone\'s post somewhere that first presented this concept and will go back and look but Jeff this helps me to understand the phrase \"edupunk\" so much. I can most definitely hear Dana Carvey as well as see him on the porch in his rocker spewing his venom. I love the visuals and I appreciate what you continue to teach me. I look forward to NECC and meeting you in person. Glad you got your flights squared away. Keep your head above water and slow, deep breaths Utes.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I hear the word “punk” and the first person I think about is a young man named Johnny B. who played 2nd base for me at BDHS. Johnny was just that the punk type kid who was as mannerly as they come but radical in that edgey sense because he walked to a different beat. I guess I missed someone’s post somewhere that first presented this concept and will go back and look but Jeff this helps me to understand the phrase “edupunk” so much. I can most definitely hear Dana Carvey as well as see him on the porch in his rocker spewing his venom. I love the visuals and I appreciate what you continue to teach me. I look forward to NECC and meeting you in person. Glad you got your flights squared away. Keep your head above water and slow, deep breaths Utes.
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]]> By: Corrie Bergeron http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-142892 Corrie Bergeron Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:37:48 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-142892 I'm not an edupunk. I'm an edufolkie. I never did resonate with the punk scene - I LIKE Boston, Styx, Queen, Yes, Pink Floyd and all that "overproduced" 70's music that punk rebelled against (though I draw the line at ABBA). Punk was about revolution and anarchy. No rules. Overthrow the system. Down with everything. Folk, OTOH, celebrates and embraces the old stuff that's still good and relevant, giving it a modern twist if necessary. Protest the failures of the status quo where necessary, but work for peaceful change. Besides, those of us over 40 are far more likely to be able to pull off a ponytail than a mohawk. ;-p<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('142892','Corrie Bergeron','I\'m not an edupunk. I\'m an edufolkie. \r\n\r\nI never did resonate with the punk scene - I LIKE Boston, Styx, Queen, Yes, Pink Floyd and all that \"overproduced\" 70\'s music that punk rebelled against (though I draw the line at ABBA). \r\n\r\nPunk was about revolution and anarchy. No rules. Overthrow the system. Down with everything.\r\n\r\nFolk, OTOH, celebrates and embraces the old stuff that\'s still good and relevant, giving it a modern twist if necessary. Protest the failures of the status quo where necessary, but work for peaceful change. \r\n\r\nBesides, those of us over 40 are far more likely to be able to pull off a ponytail than a mohawk. ;-p'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m not an edupunk. I’m an edufolkie.

I never did resonate with the punk scene – I LIKE Boston, Styx, Queen, Yes, Pink Floyd and all that “overproduced” 70’s music that punk rebelled against (though I draw the line at ABBA).

Punk was about revolution and anarchy. No rules. Overthrow the system. Down with everything.

Folk, OTOH, celebrates and embraces the old stuff that’s still good and relevant, giving it a modern twist if necessary. Protest the failures of the status quo where necessary, but work for peaceful change.

Besides, those of us over 40 are far more likely to be able to pull off a ponytail than a mohawk. ;-p

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]]> By: Ruth Fleet http://www.utechtips.com/anarchy-for-the-classroom-edupunk/comment-page-1/#comment-146979 Ruth Fleet Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:36:14 +0000 http://www.utechtips.com/?p=753#comment-146979 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Anarchy for the Classroom: Edupunk? /U Tech Tips/ - Cross Posted at The Carrot Revolution. Every once in ... http://tinyurl.com/4fenok</span></span><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('146979','Ruth Fleet','<span class=\"topsy_trackback_comment\"><span class=\"topsy_twitter_username\"><span class=\"topsy_trackback_content\">Anarchy for the Classroom: Edupunk? \/U Tech Tips\/ - Cross Posted at The Carrot Revolution. Every once in ... http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4fenok<\/span><\/span>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Anarchy for the Classroom: Edupunk? /U Tech Tips/ – Cross Posted at The Carrot Revolution. Every once in … http://tinyurl.com/4fenok
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